PASFRG Minutes 2/27/98 We are STILL urgently in need of volunteers to take on one of the categories of requirements and quantify and expand on the initial rather terse statements. Paul Lebrun gave a presentation about the Nirvana suite of tools; his slides are linked from the PASFRG home page. A couple of important points were raised in discussion that apply to other products as well: 1) Moving code back and forth between an off-line batch environment and the interactive (interpreted) analysis environment. We need to understand this requirement precisely, as it might rule out otherwise attractive solutions like Python (or other) languages for scripting. 2) Scaling limitations: We need to understand where each product breaks down as data sample sizes get larger and larger. John Marraffino led a discussion of PAW limitations. Many opinions were expressed. Concrete iussues raised included: 1) Problems with COMIS (especially double precision) 2) Lack of a debugger with COMIS 3) Lack of support (esp for porting to new operating systems/chips/architectures) 4) 64 bit operating systems will require a major rewrite of ZEBRA 5) New data types a problem 6) HIGZ limitations (can't use modern fonts) 7) Many old nagging problems with private work arounds (only one explicitly mentioned was file size limitations) 8) Performance limitations It is unclear whether or not any of these by themselves are fatal, or whether the accumulated set of problems is fatal. John will try to collect and quantify these concerns, members of the working group should send him comments Watch the agendas on the web page for which products will be discussed when. Future Meetings (all in FCC2A): Fri Mar 13, 8:30AM