As announced two weeks ago, we had a meeting on 1/17/01.  We
had an informal discussion of our goals.  Broadly, these are to take
the next step toward realistic proposals for both conventional and
neutrino factory beams, and to identify detector R&D needs.  However,
there was a consensus that we should try to be more specific.  I've
started discussions on this with individuals, and hope that things will
become more clear soon.  We have people using the Boone and Minos
beamline simulations to try and design optimized beamlines for future
experiments.  There are groups looking at liquid argon detectors,
water cerenkov detectors, and Iron/Emulsion detectors.  There is still
plenty of room to get involved!

        Mayda Velasco, with Peter Kasper, is leading a study group on
the benefits of a new proton driver at Fermilab.  She discussed the goals
of this group, and how our group could give input to the neutrino part
of the program.  The time scale is to have conclusions in May, and a
report by Snowmass.  The hope is that it can be built by 2006.  Topics
include the Tevatron Higgs search (including t t-bar Higgs channel),
kaon physics, neutrino physics, muon beams, neutrino beams, and so on.
For neutrino physics, the questions are:
1) What can we do with the Minos experiment as is, but with higher
   neutrino flux?  Can we add a tau-appearance detector at the same
2) Capabilities of a 3000 km baseline experiment with a conventional beam.
3) Capabilities of a sub-GeV conventional beam.
Obviously, our existing reports and future plans merge well with this.

        Kirk McDonald discussed ideas for a US program of developing
liquid argon TPCs in the US, based on the ICANOE experience.
He, with David Cline, John Learned, and Franco Sergiampietri,
are considering a large cylinder,
with a magnetic field, located underground (at WIPP, for example) which
could be used for proton decay, solar neutrinos, and accelerator
oscillation experiments.  This type of detector reconstructs events
in excellent detail.  Kirk suggests that a small module tested at the
source of an existing neutrino beamline would be an interesting R&D project.

        Finally, there is some desire for a different meeting time.
Thursday or Friday, 10:00AM to 12:00AM, seem like possibilities.
Please let me know your preference.

Fritz DeJongh