Fermilab

Long Range Planning Committee

 

Physics Subcommittee

 

Meeting Minutes

 

April 30, 2003

We convened the first meeting of the "Physics Landscape Committee"Present were: Appel, Butler, Carena, Eichten, Parke, Hill

 

There was a concensus that there would be value added to the lab if such a committee had a more general and long term scope of maintaining and updating the Physics Case for HEP at FNAL (and sister fields) beyond the immediate needs of the Fermilab Long Range Planning Committee (FLRP). However, we should focus now on the FLRP Physics Case document, envisioned to be a succinct statement of the Physics Landscape in relationship to the Lab in the time frame 2010-2020, with an eye to identifying key targets of opportunity.

The issue of broadening the membership of the committee was discussed. It is felt that it is  imperative that any inhouse dubiousness about the FLRP process be  diffused. This requires an all-inclusive approach. It is also felt that there exists an optimal size for a committee  in order to generate a focused document. There are roughly 3 ways to proceed:

(1)     Audit, in committee, the ideas brought in from outsiders on an invited or requested (by the outsider) basis. This allows the committee to cross-examine the presenter, which may be optimal for us and them.

(2)     Have some people sit on the committee for a few sessions, but not necessarily participate in the ongoing or writing activities.

(3)     Include more membership, particularly of experimentalists.

It was felt that people should be identified in all of these categories.

We turned to the problem of a Work Plan for the FLRP document.

The Physics Landscape committee should address off-main path of HEP potential physics targets, and conjoin with theory issues.  The "flavor channels" appear to be potentially optimally available to the Fermilab program: Kaons, Charm, B's, Neutrinos, Muons, Taus.  What about "forward Physics" (audit Mike Albrow)?

Begin by emphasizing FNAL committment to LHC (and to eventual LC somewhere).  LHC will happen, and it will ramp up fairly quickly (manpower issues?) It must be recognized that physics from LC is likely not to begin before 2015-17. (SLAC GIGA-Z plan? SC Linear Proton Driver here?)

Plethora of new results from LHC is likely, and will stimulate the field in new ways. Can we anticipate them?

Approach will be to assume LHC discovery scenarios. There are evidently 4 logical possibilities:

(1)     SUSY, ... several subscenarios, SUGRA, GM, etc.

(2)     Xtra Dims, ... neutrino implications?

(3)     New Strong Dynamics, several possibilities, eg, TC2, "Little Higgs"

(4)     Just the Std Model Higgs, nothing else.!?

Ask "what experiment in the context of flavor, or other, physics channels would you  most like to do next?"  Eg, if gauge mediated SUSY, what does it say about Kaons? Neutrinos? etc?  Note that this also begs LC and VLHC in many instances...how to place emphasis? We are certainly looking for flavor channel sensitivity, but don't want to squeeze wine from a stone..

I asked Marcela to begin to think about SUSY sub-scenarios for this. What and where is the best literature? E.g., Buras has written much about this for K's and nu's. Uli Nierste was suggested as a key reference. We know that the flavor problem is severe in the SUSY and NSD scenarios. (e.g., What if LHC finds the strange squark at 500 GeV and the down squark at 1000 GeV?  Impossible!? )

I asked Stephen to think about the neutrino logic tree, and to give us a short summary in the next meeting. 

We'll continue discussions amongst ourselves informally.

-C. Hill

 

 

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